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[Ali]

I had a go last night. Hmmmm.

Things that annoyed me;

People don't die. It's worse than COD without stopping power for the sniper rifles.They do if you shoot them in the head...Headshots are one hit kills but the body can take real punishment, though it varies according to class and the gun you use.
Mele attacks in the back of the neck, don't kill people.Like MAG, you have to be far closer for a melee to work, literally right next to them. Your character doesn't have CoD style Mr. Tickle arms. The melee is also meant to be for breaking down doors and fences rather than combat.
You can't go prone. (unless I'm missing something)They took it out after BF2:MC as it gave snipers far too much advantage unless you ran over them with a tank!
It feels slow but you can run forever.Mainly because CoD soldiers run like an Olympic athlete despite all their kit. Yet CoD soldiers then run out of breath after 20 feet. I'd say BC2 is more realistic. The Engineer is much faster than the others though.

I went back to COD afterwards and it did feel better, although I am getting bored of that now.

Really depends what your looking for. Neither MAG nor BC2 play at all like CoD. You have to co-operate to get objectives. Rambos always end up dead. The guns also vary greatly in their power. The Engineer's silence SMG takes a good 5-6 shots to take down a Medic with his heavier armour. However, the mum pistol is decently powerful in this, compared to CoD, and almost as useful as the SMG. Sniper rifles still require headshots for a one hit kill and you have to account for drop off due to gravity as well. But get it right and it's oh, so satisfying.

[Ali]

Oh, and that the default helicopter controls are just bizarre. I've switched them back to the BC1 layout.

Yep, I found this out the hard way and ended up dead in just under 12 seconds from lift off. I said to my team mate have we been shot? He said no, your just a sh!t pilot.

Also WTF is with the death swim? On the last beta you could swim for as long as you wanted, on the new map you can't. Is it because of the temperature of the water? Maybe I'm getting cramp :scratch:

Same here! I managed to do an end over end roll in the Apache first time I used it! I've now put all controls to BC1 style and much happier now. Word of warning to all those Stringfellow Hawk wannabes, the Blackhawk needs extra crew on board to be at all effective. It has no pilot operated weapons. But if you get two mini gunners, it's devastatingly good. The Apache's missiles also seem much more effective than BC1 which is a relief as it used to take 7-8 hits to take out a tank which was worse than an RPG!

[jymmm]

well it looks like i will be buying this.


can anyone tell me how to call in uavs etc ? also whats the computer thingy that turns up in your base/spawn (when you are attacking)

[Ali]

They link together Jim. The computer is the UAV control. Go up to it and press circle. You'll then see the world according ot the UAV's video feed. Use L1 and L2 to go up and down, left stick to rotate and go forwards and back, and right stick to rotate the camera view. R1 brings up a square and it acts as the laser designator for a missile launched from an aircraft, much like MW2's Predator. You'll see the word Laser in a box at the top and the missile strike takes about 30 seconds to reset. It's ready to go again when "Laser" is solid, not flashing.

If you have your target aimed at any enemy vehicle or soldier and press select, it shows him/it up on all your team's radar. Useful to take out snipers you've spotted. Also, if you've unlocked the extra vehicle weapon slot, the UAV gains a very potent machine gun which uses R2. In one game, last night, I managed to take out 3 Apaches and 2 Blackhawks using the UAV and that gun!!! It's a potent little bugger!

If a UAV is destroyed, when you look at the screen on the control box, it'll have an interference pattern on it, not a video feed, and you have to wait for it to be replaced.

[jymmm]

ahhh thats make sense as the screens have been fuzzy when i've approach them.

Can be a very frustrating game sometimes when no one works together and everyone is a sniper. At the same time its amazing how much you can do with a good apache/tank crew and a sniper spotting all their targets

[Ali]

Exactly. You have so much choice as to how to approach things and work together. Far more enjoyable and long lived than CoD.

[Mad-Dog]

this game is awesome. had some really good games today. one with edbutt and jymm. was getting some decent scores but my internet crashed out. this is going to be awesome :WOOT

[andyd]

i am very much liking this game! The snipers are ace!

[Ed Case]

yes, good games this evening. I think this and Mag are going to keep me occupied for the foreseeable future.

Never traded games before, but I may chop in MW1 & 2 for this.

[Mark]

ok ok ok so with just under a month to full release of this game, apart from single player and a few more guns and maps whats this game going to do different to MW2??

[Ali]

It does so much more than MW2, Mark. You need to try the demo to see what we mean.

Andy, if you're attacking, there's a brilliant sniper spot for the first base. Head down the left road to the very edge of the area you're allowed to use and hide in the trees on the verge just before the junction with the main road next to the sea. Nobody ever looks for you there and the view is perfect

[Rhondapety]

Hopefully not a repost.

This guys UAV skillz are awesome!

[Mark]

Ali I've played the demo (do like the game) and yes it's a little more stuctured in how you play the game and there's tanks etc, but what's the key factor that make it's completely differnt from anything else, reason I ask is because COD has gotten very boring verrrrry quickly just wondering if it's worth spunking another 40 sobs for somthing that's going to last 2 weeks...

[Mark]

also what control set up is the same as cod's? I wanna be able to stab with the r3 button

[MC88]

Taking so long to d/l this game via 360 XBL I've given up. Will just chance this one and buy it when it comes out!

Seems to be way different to MW2 but that quite possibly could be a good thing, particularly with what has been said surrounding melee attacks and running abilities of the AI. Definitely one to watch...

[m1ke]

I think I'll have to give it more time, I didn't even know you could get in UAV's and forgot about the gravity thing.

[Ali]

rhonda, that's pretty impressive, though I've had battles almost as good. 50 points after 50 points up to 5000+ just using the UAV. Best one yet was attacking the second base. They managed to steal a T90 and had it parked at the base with all their team using it as cover. One hellfire launch later and I got 6 kills (2 in the tank, 4 behind) and 430 points We did pretty damned well in that last game on the Apache. You can definitely fly it better than I can.

Mark, I can't speak for everyone, but I'm still playing the first game even 2 years down the line. MW2 just doesn't have any modes that are remotely interesting now. There's just a lack of depth that means it's a very pretty Doom clone most of the time. Plus, the athleticism of the characters is still ridiculous, unless the US and Russians give their troops crack cocaine.

Not sure on controls. I'm sure one of them was very similar to CoD but I tend to use the BC1 layout for everything. Melee is actually rubbish and mainly designed to smash windows, doors and fences, not for combat.

As for gravity, there's nothing more satisfying than getting someone's head in the sniper sights, accounting a touch for gravity, letting fly and watching them drop with 30 extra points for a Marksman Headshot My favourite new sport, even better than MW2 Stabby, Stabby, is shooting people off the quad bikes.This is even better if they have a passenger, whose facing the other way and doesn't realise they're doomed. And I'm very pleased that the mark above your head is now reserved only for when you're hit or shooting. It means you can hide, as a sniper, in the bushes on the roads with C4 and throw it at the sides of tanks as they pass by

[andyd]

Andy, if you're attacking, there's a brilliant sniper spot for the first base. Head down the left road to the very edge of the area you're allowed to use and hide in the trees on the verge just before the junction with the main road next to the sea. Nobody ever looks for you there and the view is perfect

That's the one i have been using.

I've noticed for longer shots you have to aim up a little bit all pretty cool stuff. :thumbup:

[m1ke]

This is good.

[MC88]

That sniping vid was awesome