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[PH47MF]

typical England, can't hold onto 1 nil wins. should have put the foot down to get the second goal before half time. :bumsmack:

[danneth]

Game of two halves last night, Carrick outshone Gerrard.

Carrick 51 passes, 92% completion, one key pass.
Gerrard 54 passes, 74% completion, three key passes.

I would still take gerrard everyday, he try's the long ball a lot more so the % will never be as good as someone passing sideways all game. I can't see Carrick starting to many games anyway once everyone is back / fit

[m1ke]

Carrick will start every game.

Carrick 3 tackles, one interception, one block.
Gerrard 0 tackles, 2 interceptions, one block.

[smartie]

Carrick will start every game.

Carrick 3 tackles, one interception, one block.
Gerrard 0 tackles, 2 interceptions, one block.

Two different roles. Retarded use of stats to try and prove a retarded point.

[m1ke]

They were playing exactly the same role, otherwise I wouldn't have posted the stats.



Hart
Johnson smalling lescott cole
Gerrard Carrick
Milner cleverly welbeck
Rooney.

Exactly the same role.

[smartie]

No.

[TimEP3]

Game of two halves last night, Carrick outshone Gerrard.

Carrick 51 passes, 92% completion, one key pass.
Gerrard 54 passes, 74% completion, three key passes.

I would still take gerrard everyday, he try's the long ball a lot more so the % will never be as good as someone passing sideways all game. I can't see Carrick starting to many games anyway once everyone is back / fit

Michael Carrick has made more forward passes (782) than any other player in the Premier League this season. 110 more than any other midfielder.

Amazing how little people understand about modern football.

[danneth]

Game of two halves last night, Carrick outshone Gerrard.

Carrick 51 passes, 92% completion, one key pass.
Gerrard 54 passes, 74% completion, three key passes.

I would still take gerrard everyday, he try's the long ball a lot more so the % will never be as good as someone passing sideways all game. I can't see Carrick starting to many games anyway once everyone is back / fit

Michael Carrick has made more forward passes (782) than any other player in the Premier League this season. 110 more than any other midfielder.

Amazing how little people understand about modern football.

Very misleading stat really, lets me honest it can still be passed sideways yet classed as "forward"

There is a reason Gerrard has started 80 England games or so more than Carrick, but if people want to keep making a case for Carrick go for it :salut:

[smartie]

Carrick is the latest Utd fan meme.

[TimEP3]

Game of two halves last night, Carrick outshone Gerrard.

Carrick 51 passes, 92% completion, one key pass.
Gerrard 54 passes, 74% completion, three key passes.

I would still take gerrard everyday, he try's the long ball a lot more so the % will never be as good as someone passing sideways all game. I can't see Carrick starting to many games anyway once everyone is back / fit

Michael Carrick has made more forward passes (782) than any other player in the Premier League this season. 110 more than any other midfielder.

Amazing how little people understand about modern football.

Very misleading stat really, lets me honest it can still be passed sideways yet classed as "forward"

There is a reason Gerrard has started 80 England games or so more than Carrick, but if people want to keep making a case for Carrick go for it :salut:

Jesus wept.

If the first line was the case, it's the same for everyone. Ergo he's still made more forward passes, and more passes overall.

Xavi makes far more sideways passes than Carrick - is he crap?

[smartie]

Still trying to compare two different roles.

[m1ke]

Saying it's wrong but not explaining why...

[PH47MF]

being in the same position doesn't mean they were instructed to play the same game, it was obvious gerard was asked to show more creativity and push forward to support when he can. stats don't mean sh-t.

[m1ke]

How bad are England?

[Mark]

You need to ask lol

[Barney]

only one team has scored more goals than us in qualifying and only two conceeded less

but we could do with winning moar

[TimEP3]

How bad are England?

[m1ke]

With bells on.

Welbeck missing for two games and we lose both.

[EvoStu]

Yeah thanks England for the amount of grief I've been getting today!

[m1ke]

Battered by the German B team. lol.