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By mjhamilton
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Adey wrote:Meh. I didn't want a massive change of direction. The reason I loved it is because it was very star warsy. And I'm obviously not the only one because it scores 8.6 on IMDB.
I mean Fast and Furious 7 made over a billion so it shows what advertising and hype can do
I think it shows what a cast member death can do tbh.
Exactly - someone "gets it"

:)
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By smartie
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Thought the plot was a bit naff/bit of a rehash, Kylo Ren was quite cool until he took his helmet off and turned into a 12 year old emo kid and some of the acting was suspect. However overall I really enjoyed it. :D
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By RSFN2GT
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smartie wrote:Thought the plot was a bit naff/bit of a rehash, Kylo Ren was quite cool until he took his helmet off and turned into a 12 year old emo kid and some of the acting was suspect. However overall I really enjoyed it. :D

I'm sure you could've done a lot better with the script written in your bedroom.
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By smartie
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RSFN2GT wrote:
smartie wrote:Thought the plot was a bit naff/bit of a rehash, Kylo Ren was quite cool until he took his helmet off and turned into a 12 year old emo kid and some of the acting was suspect. However overall I really enjoyed it. :D

I'm sure you could've done a lot better with the script written in your bedroom.
Most of the internet could have done better. [emoji1]
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By richd7
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Adey wrote:Meh. I didn't want a massive change of direction. The reason I loved it is because it was very star warsy. And I'm obviously not the only one because it scores 8.6 on IMDB.
Dark Knight Rises got a score of 10... days before it was even released. Just saying, IMDB isn't the best use for factual scores. Click on reviews and filter by BEST and you'll see the true pattern of what people are thinking - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/reviews?ref_=tt_urv

I quite like this new one:
Have you ever disagreed with someone about the quality of a production so intensely that you've wondered if the two of you even watched the same film? I'm sorry, everyone in the world, I thought The Force Awakens was a real snoozer. I'm not surprised that my eight year old nephew loved it, but I can't for the life of me figure out why the degree-holding adults I associate with aren't offended at what we've been offered by Abrams as the continuation of the world's foremost loved space epic.

Essentially what it feels like is a reboot of the original series, except this time for kids (no surprise there, Disney), not a meaningful continuation that picks up where the originals left off. Although I did start having my doubts about my future satisfaction with the Star Wars franchise when Disney made its Star Wars paraphernalia so pervasive that one morning I found myself unconsciously buttering my toast with DeathStar Margarine Spread©. Yeah—head trip, but I got over it.

There was virtually zero discussion within the movie itself as to what happened after episode Vl and how we got to where we are now, making this production feel like a desperate lurch to be a stand-alone and to appeal to an audience who is too young to have appreciated the Spice Girls let alone the originals. This direction may be satisfying for some, but for those of us who were expecting more we may find ourselves doused in dissatisfaction. Furthermore, I was saddened by the obvious deficiency surrounding the exploration of the mythology of the Force. One of the elements that so intrigued viewers about the originals was the underlying spirituality and the metaphysical forces at play within the Star Wars universe; however, in this version of Star Wars Abrams seems to care more about the characters ceaselessly running away from things and having meaningless, often silly conversation (like in one scene the character Finn asks Rey in the goofiest way possible if she has a boyfriend—I laughed but I was so ashamed) instead of exploring the depths of some of the most intriguing supernatural philosophy in all of moviedom. However, this fact is not surprising as the masses seem to be entertained predominantly by action, comedy, flashing lights, and explosions, not exploring the psychological latitudes of light and dark within the human soul, and definitely not sitting through slow scenes of dialogue which could (God forbid) give us an understanding of the depths of the Star Wars legend and mystery. I suppose in this regard (and in too many others) Abrams gave the people what they wanted.

Not only was the confined exploration of the Force disappointing but so was the serious lack of emotional poignancy. At no point, AT LITERALLY NO POINT, did I feel sad, frustrated, anxious, worried, or exhilarated during its belabored two hours and sixteen minutes. The characters felt like they could be potentially cloned from any PG-13 teen movie you've seen since Twilight hijacked the world and forced it's twisted, disgusting version of acceptable adolescent stereotypes upon us. You could almost swap out the light-sabers, tie-fighters, and storm troopers and you'd have a great sequel to whatever the hell number Hunger Games we're on these days (because that's how interesting the rest of the plot was).

Another thing that really annoyed me was the way in which the galaxy was too American. Of course I get it, it was made by Hollywood IT IS American, but guys, this is supposed to be in a GALAXY FAR AWAY, so why was there very little attempt made to try and hide that? Between the all too familiar mannerisms, jokes, and language I just couldn't fully suspend my disbelief. In my opinion, the originals managed to avoid most overt use of cultural indicators, I mean sure, it's impossible to avoid all due to obvious limitations, but watch the main character Finn carefully during the movie and you'll see that he's dripping with 21st century western American dude. Like literally drenched. Where was the otherworldly authenticity among the main characters?

Of course it wasn't all bad. The visuals were beautiful, much of the topography and effects were breathtaking, and I have to admit that I did feel pangs of nostalgia over any scene that included an X-wing, but overall it wasn't enough. Really a lot of what it comes down to is expectation (and perhaps a sprinkle of intelligent awareness). So many people have told me that they went into it not expecting too much and that they had "fun" watching it; and then there's me sitting here thinking: what on Tatooine are they talking about? With all the media hype this film received, not to mention the disappointment of the prequels, I was expecting a hell of a lot out of this movie, and simple "fun" ain't going cut it. Abrams seemed to have carved the profundity and soul out of Star Wars with a lightsaber— the same soul we've been waiting to enter our lives again ever since the prequels ruined them.

The Force Awakens was half way there, but it felt forced (pun intended), shallow, in need of a more refined plot, more mature characters, a deeper spirituality, moral complexity and depth; it needed to resonate more deeply with the IMPORTANT themes of the original, and to not have felt like a chaste teen romance with some old faces in there used like a box office tractor beam. If you're content with having your childhood favorite epic turned into a lovable, easily digestible icon of twenty-first century pop culture, marketed intentionally at young people to delight, entertain (and make many million corporate dollars) whilst simultaneously causing you to cringe at the fact that the original actors are okay with such a disservice to a time-proved story then you will love the continuation of this franchise!

May the force save us from this trilogy.
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By mjhamilton
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plasmaman wrote:I think when people have that much to type about the film they need a very close look at themselves, that person needs help.
Especially if they are "degree holding"
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By *nub*
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I Don't disagree with that review to be honest although I don't care enough to think or write about it as much. I thought it was "fun" as well, but not much more than that. I walked out of there feeling a bit disappointed and immediately thinking some things should have been done differently as it just didn't work for me. Not sure if it's supposed to be deliberate as they're in their early stages of training, but the professor snape Jedi dude was useless with his sabre, injured or not he was defeated by a girl with zero training. Yet at the start of the movie he demonstrates that he can stop the beam from the weapon with his mind. Doesn't seem consistent to me. Perhaps they're trying to 'nerf' the perception of the Jedis power and ability by making them slower etc. the modern films got it right IMO.
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By jtc
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VII had just as many unexplained things as IV yet the butthurt nerds overlook it because this is "new" and they are "classic".

I'm sure things will be better explained in the new movies due every year.

Seen it twice at the cinema now. Love it.
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By Adey
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richd7 wrote:
Adey wrote:Meh. I didn't want a massive change of direction. The reason I loved it is because it was very star warsy. And I'm obviously not the only one because it scores 8.6 on IMDB.
Dark Knight Rises got a score of 10... days before it was even released. Just saying, IMDB isn't the best use for factual scores. Click on reviews and filter by BEST and you'll see the true pattern of what people are thinking - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/reviews?ref_=tt_urv

I quite like this new one:
Have you ever disagreed with someone about the quality of a production so intensely that you've wondered if the two of you even watched the same film? I'm sorry, everyone in the world, I thought The Force Awakens was a real snoozer. I'm not surprised that my eight year old nephew loved it, but I can't for the life of me figure out why the degree-holding adults I associate with aren't offended at what we've been offered by Abrams as the continuation of the world's foremost loved space epic.........
Haha. "degree holding adults" Oh yeah that elite few :lol:

It was quite long but I did read most of it & agreed with what he was saying, sort of.

When I went to see Star Wars in 1977 it blew me away. I find it hard to watch now because of all the "improvements" Lucas has made. Han & Jabba, Luke talking to his mate (Biggs?), the endless filling in gaps with CGI robots bopping other robots on the head & a jawa being lifted up off the floor by his camel animal. I literally grind my teeth evertime that animal walks in front of the camera just as Obi Wan is about to talk about these not being the droids they are looking for. But that's a whole other story. The point I'm am getting to is that in the original films we didn't know much back story at all. We didn't know much about Darth Vader apart what Old Ben told Luke. I don't think we need to know every detail about every character or how we got to this point. We were discovering it as Luke was. If someone really needs to know they can easily look into the massive Star Wars universe because there is also an unexplained gap between ROTS & A New Hope as I recall. A few of my favourites being, how did Obi Wan not "remember ever owning a droid", R2 losing his ability to fly, how could Leah remember her mum's face when she died as her & Luke were born & how come Anakin at 5 was considered too old to be trained in Phantom Menace but Luke was OK at 17? You could of course fill in every conceivable detail with endless council meetings, Jedi council meetings & meetings about trade embargoes but then then that's one of the reasons I hated the prequels. Pretty much the only part that I liked out of the prequels was the fight between Obi Wan, Qui gon & Darth Maul.

It was good. It was fun, easy to understand & fast paced just like the original 3. I don't really care about the expanded Star Wars universe. I can't wait to see it again in a few weeks.

I also can't wait for them to bring out the original trilogy, untouched & remastered for Bluray. Fingers crossed!!
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By EvoStu
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Some of the comments in here, I think JJ couldn't win whatever he did.

Thought it was a brilliant Star Wars movie. Off to see it again this week.

You also haven't witnessed a Star Wars film until you see it in the US. Wooping and Cheering during scenes. Seriously an annoyance. LOL!

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