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[eatthis]

BHP is what power the engine is making & Torque is pulling power...

I havnt had my car on the rollers after the new setup but im sure im in the region of 270-280ftlb torque...

Its crazy the way it pulls had a blast with my mates 434bhp Evo 8 from 2nd gear rolling start i was beating him nicely thanks to the torque...

that post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and is total horsesh1t

Which part dont you understand & what you trying to call horse sh*t... ??

bhp is power? define power its a vague and potentially misleading point at best
torque is pulling power? theres that word power again hp and torque are 2 different things yet you use the same word to describe both. also define pulling?

you claim you beat an evo that has 434 hp because of your torque????? (i dont doubt you beat him btw) this just doesnt make any sense at all because i garauntee you that evo has ALOT more torque than you do (my guess would be at least 400 lb ft) i know why you would beat it and have actually stated why in this thread but i think you dont understand what torque and hp are and how they work

[EP3crew]

BHP is what power the engine is making & Torque is pulling power...

I havnt had my car on the rollers after the new setup but im sure im in the region of 270-280ftlb torque...

Its crazy the way it pulls had a blast with my mates 434bhp Evo 8 from 2nd gear rolling start i was beating him nicely thanks to the torque...

that post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and is total horsesh1t

Which part dont you understand & what you trying to call horse sh*t... ??

bhp is power? define power its a vague and potentially misleading point at best
torque is pulling power? theres that word power again hp and torque are 2 different things yet you use the same word to describe both. also define pulling?

you claim you beat an evo that has 434 hp because of your torque????? (i dont doubt you beat him btw) this just doesnt make any sense at all because i garauntee you that evo has ALOT more torque than you do (my guess would be at least 400 lb ft) i know why you would beat it and have actually stated why in this thread but i think you dont understand what torque and hp are and how they work

Nos gives a car loads of Torque thats why there is no lag when you hit the switch no hanging back your gone...

In reality yea torque is turning force i know that but what i ment by torque is pulling power is if you got torque your going to pull away fast if no torque your going to be strugling to pull away fast...

& where i mentioned i beat my mates Evo 2nd gear rolling i did... He had lag with his 434bhp where as there is NO lag with nos... & ofcourse from the 1st gear the Evo is faster...

[danneth]

a 300bhp type-r beats a 430bhp evo?

[T180985]

a 300bhp type-r beats a 430bhp evo?

there was a top gear episode where their resonable priced car beat the FQ-400 for a short while because of the epic turbo lag?

[danneth]

a 300bhp type-r beats a 430bhp evo?

there was a top gear episode where their resonable priced car beat the FQ-400 for a short while because of the epic turbo lag?

but i was under the impressions they wanted to show you the turbo lag hence no gear change?

[EP3crew]

a 300bhp type-r beats a 430bhp evo?

The Evo & many other Turbo cars suffer from lag... NOS doesnt have lag hit the switch & your gone...

Not just that the CTR doesnt weight as much as alot big car with Turbo's etc so weight is a big disadvantage like the lag...

Next time im out racing something with over 400bhp i'll try get it on video & you can see for yourself...

[danneth]

a 300bhp type-r beats a 430bhp evo?

The Evo & many other Turbo cars suffer from lag... NOS doesnt have lag hit the switch & your gone...

Not just that the CTR doesnt weight as much as alot big car with Turbo's etc so weight is a big disadvantage like the lag...

Next time im out racing something with over 400bhp i'll try get it on video & you can see for yourself...

With the greatest respect your telling me about things i really know about, yes the evo's have some lag but even so not enough to start losing rolling races with a much slower car, im guessing for it to be 430bhp its modded mapped etc so are you telling me its been tuned to be laggy?

[pulpmelon_r]

As long as the evo driver doesnt learn how to brake boost!

[eatthis]

As long as the evo driver doesnt learn how to brake boost!

not heard of that is it heel and toe to keep the turbo spooled?

and ep3 the evo is beside the point iv tried to exlain what torque is and what bhp is youv avoided most of my points
ps as i stated in my prev post if you say you beat the evo i beleive you

[pulpmelon_r]

You just hit the gas and the brakes at the same time while rolling to spin up the turbo, then you hold it till peak boost on your gauge & your ready to run (or your brakes melt )

Whens the next RWYB at York? I'm itching to see wht numbers I can run with cams.

[Rebecca]

10th July at York, not Elvington.

Think I'll be going up.

x

[jreedy]

i cant see a 300 bhp type r touching a 434 bhp evo to be honest let alone pulling away from one,

my superchaged civic was definately quicker than a evo fq 320 that my friends got, not by a lot but i could slowly but surely pull away from him once we was rolling!

i've been out in a 500 bhp evo 6 tommi makkinen and fcuk me that thing was stupidly quick, it had a big scremer pipe off of the turbo..............it sounded like a turbo'd hayabusa

[DANCTRs-o-t]

a 300bhp type-r beats a 430bhp evo?

there was a top gear episode where their resonable priced car beat the FQ-400 for a short while because of the epic turbo lag?

The Evo was in 6th at something like 1500 revs though. That's turbo lag to the extreme!

[EP3crew]

a 300bhp type-r beats a 430bhp evo?

The Evo & many other Turbo cars suffer from lag... NOS doesnt have lag hit the switch & your gone...

Not just that the CTR doesnt weight as much as alot big car with Turbo's etc so weight is a big disadvantage like the lag...

Next time im out racing something with over 400bhp i'll try get it on video & you can see for yourself...

With the greatest respect your telling me about things i really know about, yes the evo's have some lag but even so not enough to start losing rolling races with a much slower car, im guessing for it to be 430bhp its modded mapped etc so are you telling me its been tuned to be laggy?

God knows how it has been mapped he got it from scotland as it is...

[EP3crew]

i cant see a 300 bhp type r touching a 434 bhp evo to be honest let alone pulling away from one,

my superchaged civic was definately quicker than a evo fq 320 that my friends got, not by a lot but i could slowly but surely pull away from him once we was rolling!

i've been out in a 500 bhp evo 6 tommi makkinen and fcuk me that thing was stupidly quick, it had a big scremer pipe off of the turbo..............it sounded like a turbo'd hayabusa

My car made 300BHP on the old NOS set up since then its had the new Y block set up & moves alot more better then what it was at 300bhp... Havnt had the time to get it back on the RR but i know its over 300bhp now...

Iv driven & been in supercharged ctr's but NOS its a different ball game... You guys must think im chatting crap on here like i said next time im racing something fast i'll get it on video & show you...

If anyone of you really wants to know how quick it is ask Paul at TDI North he has been in it whilst on NOS...

[tuf]

You just hit the gas and the brakes at the same time while rolling to spin up the turbo, then you hold it till peak boost on your gauge & your ready to run (or your brakes melt )

Whens the next RWYB at York? I'm itching to see wht numbers I can run with cams.

Are you cammed up now, prayoonto????
What figures is it pushing out regarding to torque and bhp, graph would be cool

[alan83]

You guys must think im chatting crap on here

Well......... Not as if you have a reputation for it
I think its you thats on the nos not the car.

[tuf]

i cant see a 300 bhp type r touching a 434 bhp evo to be honest let alone pulling away from one,

my superchaged civic was definately quicker than a evo fq 320 that my friends got, not by a lot but i could slowly but surely pull away from him once we was rolling!

i've been out in a 500 bhp evo 6 tommi makkinen and fcuk me that thing was stupidly quick, it had a big scremer pipe off of the turbo..............it sounded like a turbo'd hayabusa

My car made 300BHP on the old NOS set up since then its had the new Y block set up & moves alot more better then what it was at 300bhp... Havnt had the time to get it back on the RR but i know its over 300bhp now...

Iv driven & been in supercharged ctr's but NOS its a different ball game... You guys must think im chatting crap on here like i said next time im racing something fast i'll get it on video & show you...

If anyone of you really wants to know how quick it is ask Paul at TDI North he has been in it whilst on NOS...

I think seeing/experiencing how insanely fast my 380bhp felt to me, 300bhp on nos with instant power with nos im guessing should be pretty quick.

Like pulpmelon_r said, brake boosting on turbo cars is alot of fun , warped brake discs on mine due to it so soon went back to the laggy way of doing things

[EP3crew]

You guys must think im chatting crap on here

Well......... Not as if you have a reputation for it
I think its you thats on the nos not the car.

Haha very funny...

[EP3crew]

i cant see a 300 bhp type r touching a 434 bhp evo to be honest let alone pulling away from one,

my superchaged civic was definately quicker than a evo fq 320 that my friends got, not by a lot but i could slowly but surely pull away from him once we was rolling!

i've been out in a 500 bhp evo 6 tommi makkinen and fcuk me that thing was stupidly quick, it had a big scremer pipe off of the turbo..............it sounded like a turbo'd hayabusa

My car made 300BHP on the old NOS set up since then its had the new Y block set up & moves alot more better then what it was at 300bhp... Havnt had the time to get it back on the RR but i know its over 300bhp now...

Iv driven & been in supercharged ctr's but NOS its a different ball game... You guys must think im chatting crap on here like i said next time im racing something fast i'll get it on video & show you...

If anyone of you really wants to know how quick it is ask Paul at TDI North he has been in it whilst on NOS...

I think seeing/experiencing how insanely fast my 380bhp felt to me, 300bhp on nos with instant power with nos im guessing should be pretty quick.

Like pulpmelon_r said, brake boosting on turbo cars is alot of fun , warped brake discs on mine due to it so soon went back to the laggy way of doing things

It is very quick on Nos... No lag no & hanging around its all business when i hit the switch...

The lads who havnt used Nos wouldnt know what to expect or what it can do so in all fairness you cant say your car cant beat a 400bhp car etc... Any one up my end want to go for a spin on Nos let me know that way you would know what nos is about...