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By sparkysp
#3858361
what are everyones feelings on this 0w is good for cold starts but 20w doesnt seem high enough ive read oil temps of 122 degs C on other forum posts which is in the 40w range
abit worried im guessing honda got it right but we all know once you exceed the temp of oil it breaks down and doesnt reform hence needing a oil change everytime time you cook the oil so to speak

what are everyone thoughs ??

cheers stu ..
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By Loxy
#3858367
Honda use a very specific oil in the FK2. I would take a punt that it is specially formulated for such temps.

The variable service indicator didn't indicate anything peculiar after tracking and Honda didn't say anything about the state of the oil when they changed it.
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By dweezle
#3858370
Its mind boggling & cracking stuff, I won't use anything else as it doesn't seem to use any, shame as I've now got 3 ltrs sat doing nothing :)
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By Vissa
#3858373
Why do people doubt high skilled Honda engineers? They don't put crap in their engines. They are one of the most reliable engines on the market, and that's not for a reason.

Stick with what Honda tells you!
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By sparkysp
#3858395
Vissa wrote:Why do people doubt high skilled Honda engineers? They don't put crap in their engines. They are one of the most reliable engines on the market, and that's not for a reason.

Stick with what Honda tells you!
i will and it was a query not a doubt im hardly about to drop the oil out and go nah i want 0w-30 in it

people are allowed to ask questions and not be a sheep baaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh !!!!!
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By dweezle
#3858400
The oil is thin for economy nothing more, it's just well made.
If the car drank it I can 100% guarantee people would be upgrading to 5w40 something like Fuchs or millers, it happened in previous type Rs
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By dweezle
#3858466
With this heat i noticed a lower pressure reading at start up this morning & again after Work, Im usually around the 5.4 mark on start up, but was seeing 2.7 after work, 34 degrees was showing on the dash display so pretty hot out.
Checked my oil to be safe & was spot on, pressures are normal once driving & bang on with an up to temp reading, from what I read a low viscosity oil will give low pressure readings in hot weather, so hopefully this fecking heat wave will drop a few
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By Akula_Type-R
#3858489
Damn, the pressure depends of the revs engine... and for the oil hot temp maybe honda forgot to install an oil cooler in this fk2 :)
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By sparkysp
#3859004
after checking the manual you can use 0-30w as spec in the manual for european cars where every that is also 5w-30 can be used there loads of different values and ranges in the manual
pretty sure the honda racing dont use 0-20w or they do and have a bloody big oil cooler fitted to the roof as there no space in the engine bay lol
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By CTR16611
#3860096
These oils are simply super low friction oils.

Normally you see these type of oils used in drag or sprint racing or where fuel economy and emissions are tricky.
In day to day driving, the oils do hold up, as they don't have real work to do and can be used the usual 10,000 miles on a daily driven car.

But to put it bluntly, it is absolutely no oil for trackdays and continued driving. It should be switched out after 300-500miles on track with normal day to day driving of around 1500-1700 miles, for a total of 2,000 with this oil weight.

That is from past experience and oil testing. After this point, the values of metal solubles in the oil increase, which we don't want.
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By Lewisgame
#3860106
Interesting subject.
Thin oil for fuel consumption isn't the main reason for why it's used.
Engines now are built to such high tolerances that you require thin oil to properly lubricate the moving components. Also engines turbocharged generally use a thinner oil to properly lubricate the bearings within the turbo.
What the oil is suitable for will be a mixture of driving conditions. This is a road car at the end of the day. It needs to work in all conditions. It's probably not ideal if it was to be run on track. But these have oil evaluation sensors so it will calculate when the oil is past its best.
During it's period in warranty. I wouldn't change the viscosity or differ from whatever Honda recommend. If your engine blows and they catch whiff it's not the correct oil, warranty will be void.
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