HondaType wrote:I can see you are willing to argue this and whatever I say will miss the point.... The difference between a Honda owner and a Ferrari owner is night and day. Whilst I understand the analogy and regardless of how good the car is, £40k for what is essentially still a Honda Civic, is a lot of money. It's fairly unlikely someone like Chris Evans will have one nestled between his 250 GTO and his 599 in years to come.
What does the average Mugen owner look like? Me being slightly cynical, I'm guessing possibly someone that will buy the car, put it in a garage and not drive it, then hope it's worth exponentially more than they paid for it. Only to find they've got a car that's lost a fair bit of money
As I said, I applaud manufacturers that develop projects like this. I just feel the scope was too wide and went too far and loses sight of the type of person that might actually buy it.
The difference isn't night and day, its all relative. I know people with car collections that include really odd cars like old midgets yet also include a Veyron and a brand new McLaren. You cannot say what or who these cars appeal to. The fact is the difference in price between an F430 and a Scuderia is £50K, the difference between the Scuderia and the Scuderia 16M is £40K. See its all relative. Those people who can afford an F430 might not be able to afford the Scuderia and if they could wouldn't want the more track focused car.
Ask Mugen themselves who buys them. Apparently the typical buyer is not what you'd think, it varies massively.
I agree its expensive for a Civic, but you really do miss the point as to what the car is and what is stands for from a purely mechanical aspect. If you see this thing being built and the work that goes into it, you will understand why its the money it is.
Having spent time with the concept, the M20 and now the 2.2 I can tell you its an absolute manic piece of kit and if I didn't have such a requirement for something a bit more staid I'd happily own one.