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[smartie]

Just to be different i actually like the spoiler

Does that mean i should be driving this ... ?

I thought Mugen only did Honda's :scratch:

(I have no idea what that car is....)

[dandemoraliser]

the mu03gen like evostu said is the original one, initially built by mugen to say, "hey look waht we can do!"

that shoudl live somewhere near the honda institute if im not mistaken too.

dam nice car though all the same!!

im not sure if the mu09gen is a 20? but im led to believe it is as they have both at the institute at the moment.

Trust me MU09GEN is a Mugen 20. Its the very first of the full production units that were built in Japan and shipped over.
http://www.hondauk-media.co.uk/uploads/ ... gen-04.jpg

There is also a red one as well MU03GEN which was the original concept.
http://www.hondauk-media.co.uk/uploads/ ... gen-05.jpg

Or he could have just looked at my reply above.

Dont think he believes us........FOOLS!

[mat]

Just to be different i actually like the spoiler

Does that mean i should be driving this ... ?

from that picture it doesn't look like a bad job... obviously it's completely OTT but the workmanship looks alright!


mat.

[Hooj]

Yes it is a bit OTT, but surely that's the point! I like it, very japanese.

That pic above is awesome, good find :thumbup:

[grim66]

the mu03gen like evostu said is the original one, initially built by mugen to say, "hey look waht we can do!"

that shoudl live somewhere near the honda institute if im not mistaken too.

dam nice car though all the same!!

im not sure if the mu09gen is a 20? but im led to believe it is as they have both at the institute at the moment.

Trust me MU09GEN is a Mugen 20. Its the very first of the full production units that were built in Japan and shipped over.
http://www.hondauk-media.co.uk/uploads/ ... gen-04.jpg

There is also a red one as well MU03GEN which was the original concept.
http://www.hondauk-media.co.uk/uploads/ ... gen-05.jpg

Or he could have just looked at my reply above.

Dont think he believes us........FOOLS!

no i believe you alright! im open to being wrong thats fine with me! stilla cool car either way whatever b****ks i talk!!

[RocketRomeo]

the mu03gen like evostu said is the original one, initially built by mugen to say, "hey look waht we can do!"

that shoudl live somewhere near the honda institute if im not mistaken too.

dam nice car though all the same!!

im not sure if the mu09gen is a 20? but im led to believe it is as they have both at the institute at the moment.

Trust me MU09GEN is a Mugen 20. Its the very first of the full production units that were built in Japan and shipped over.
http://www.hondauk-media.co.uk/uploads/ ... gen-04.jpg

There is also a red one as well MU03GEN which was the original concept.
http://www.hondauk-media.co.uk/uploads/ ... gen-05.jpg

The Mugen cars don't live at the institute, they live at the Mugen Euro HQ. :thumbup:

At the institute, the guys in the press workshop told me that mu03gen is prototype P1 (as we all know) and mu09gen is prototype P2, i.e. it is not one of the 20.

[BlockEight]

i.e. it is not one of the 20.

Yeah, it's numbered as 00.

[RocketRomeo]

i.e. it is not one of the 20.

Yeah, it's numbered as 00.

exactly, and they clearly said that the 20 will be numbered 1-21 (excluding 13 for obvious reasons)

[EvoStu]

And as I said its the very first of the full production units. Which means its exactly as production spec.

[karl]

exactly, and they clearly said that the 20 will be numbered 1-21 (excluding 13 for obvious reasons)

sorry, but what obvious reasons are they then? :scratch:

[jj0201]

exactly, and they clearly said that the 20 will be numbered 1-21 (excluding 13 for obvious reasons)

sorry, but what obvious reasons are they then? :scratch:

i was thinking because its an unlucky number

[karl]

well that's just got fail written all over it

[RocketRomeo]

exactly, and they clearly said that the 20 will be numbered 1-21 (excluding 13 for obvious reasons)

sorry, but what obvious reasons are they then? :scratch:

i was thinking because its an unlucky number

correct

[J]

Mmmm I thought 4 was unlucky in Japan

[matgt3000]

Mmmm I thought 4 was unlucky in Japan

If you hadn't noticed mate were in the UK

[J]

Mmmm I thought 4 was unlucky in Japan

If you hadn't noticed mate were in the UK

So Mugen is a British company then?

[matgt3000]

Mmmm I thought 4 was unlucky in Japan

If you hadn't noticed mate were in the UK

So Mugen is a British company then?

No but the cars are being sold in th uk

so why base the old unlucky number in a coutry the car isent sold in

[J]

For the same reasion that out VTR's dont come as a number 4 as they are designed in Japan.

[matgt3000]

For the same reasion that out VTR's dont come as a number 4 as they are designed in Japan.

Surley if it makes no differnce in the country you are selling the car, it makes no difference.

I'm in no way saying your wrong, i'm sure your right. :thumbup:

In my opinion why miss out 13, makes no difference to me

[MUGEN POWER]

Sorry, the omission of #13 was down to me.

In a previous life I have built hundreds of race cars over the years and we never used to build one with chassis plate 13 (even those we were selling to Japan). It's just a motorsport foible that doesn't mean much outside of the UK and US, and different numbers are regarded as unlucky in different countries, but it is something I had always done, so we went with it (Triskaidekaphobia = fear of the number 13 by the way).
The car is built in the UK (base car at Swindon, Mugen conversion at Northampton), and only sold in the UK, so UK traditions won the day. I understand Mugen 200 will have a number 13 though.

A (semi) interesting story if you're interested; we were once building a run of Formula Nippon cars and, due to production issues, it turned out purely by chance that the 13th chassis was the one we sent for impact testing (normal practice would suggest that you would try to pass the crash test with one of your first-built before going into full production), and it got totally trashed, and so we had to scrap the chassis and retrospectively apply a fix to the previous 12 that were already made. We usually reckoned on passing crash tests with ease, and this was a pure coincidence I know, but I always remember it.

Incidentally, the car in the pictures is #00, which is Honda/Mugen-speak for a pre-production car, therefore this one is not for sale. The cars for sale will be numbered 01-21 i.e. no #13.