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 #2826195  by Sedge
 Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:07 pm
Nice one :smile:
 #2826229  by m1ke
 Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:28 pm
Would love to do this, me spending 1k driving around Europe with out wife and baby would go down too well!!
 #2826233  by Newannaive
 Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:31 pm
 #2826292  by Sedge
 Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:26 pm
m1ke wrote:Would love to do this, me spending 1k driving around Europe with out wife and baby would go down too well!!

Newannaive wrote:mike...mtfu

:lol: :lol:

Emails sent to Euro Tunnel, Norfolk Line and P&O for initial quotes on travel.
 #2826514  by Sedge
 Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:16 pm
OK, standard prices for the dates I plucked out of the sky. Hopefully we will be able to get some money off each of these.

Norfolk Line - Dover to Dunkirk
Depart 1000 Monday 14 June 2011. Return 2201 25 June 2011. Cost £54 return (including fuel charge of £12).

P&O Ferries - Dover to Calais
Depart 0940 Monday 14 June 2011. Return 2150 25 June 2011. Cost £85 return (plus £4 credit card fee).

Eurotunnel - Folkestone to Calais
Depart between 8am and 10am Monday 14 June 2011. Return between 8pm and 10pm 25 June 2011. Return £138.

Ok now fuel.
If we take 30MPG as an average between cars different levels of modification, and useage of VTEC y0.
2500 miles (as a top level based on Owls initial route) is roughly 85 Gallons.
Cost per litre of approx £1.25 (fuel is about the same at the moment in France, well ish).
1 Imperial gallon = 4.55 litres
85 gallons = 386.75 litres
Total £485 for fuel
Then add 2 or 3% for card transactions, etc.

 #2826523  by Mark83
 Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:22 pm
You had to pick the dates of the Nurburgring 24H race :lol:

Just so you're aware, that will be running from 22nd-26th June. The track will be closed and there will be about 200,000 people there.

Sedge wrote:Then add 2 or 3% for card transactions, etc.

It's worthwhile getting a credit card that allows free foreign transactions. I have a Nationwide credit card for when I'm abroad.
 #2826682  by Sedge
 Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:14 pm
Balls :lol: :lol:
Looking at Owls route we should pass there in the first week so hopefully avoid the event if people want to branch away, as mentioned.

Thanks for the Nationwide idea. I have looked on their site and while commission free there is a 1% charge by third parties which is passed on, so better than normal.
I will have to check what my current cards charge and see how much they rip per go...
 #2827966  by Sedge
 Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:08 pm
Reply from Norfolk Line
I am happy to offer you the following fare for travel:

Dover – Dunkerque 14 June 2011 @ 08.00
Dunkerque – Dover 24 June 2011 @ 20.00
£49.00 Car and 4 return

Dover – Dunkerque 14 June 2011 @ 10.00
Dunkerque – Dover 24 June 2011 @ 22.00
£45.00 Car and 4 return

I am able to hold this offer open till 28 Feb 2011. Our standard terms and conditions do apply to this offer. If you would like go ahead and book, please let me know and I will be happy to forward a booking form to you.

 #2827983  by Mark83
 Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:21 pm
Worth noting that it's a two hour crossing with Norfolkline so you land in France 3 hours after leaving Dover. Can be a pain if on a tight schedule.
 #2828794  by Sedge
 Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:29 pm
P and O wrote:Thank you for your interest in travelling with P&O Ferries. I have attached the Rally Application Form along with the Terms and Conditions.

We have a price you sailing:

Dover-Calais 14.06.11 @ 08.55
Calais-Dover 24.06.11 @ 20.30 (Brand New Ship,Spirit of Britain)

Outward £25.00 car and up to 5 passengers
Return £20.00 car and up to 5 passengers

Please confirm within 15 days to guarantee the space and price.

I will look forward to receiving the completed application form.

Code: Select allP&O Ferries
Terms of Business for Rallies

These terms and conditions apply to all booking accepted by P&O Ferries Holdings
Limited as a Rally booking. By making a Rally booking, you are deemed to accept these
terms and conditions. Travel by yourself and all passengers under a Rally booking is
also governed by the P&O Ferries full Terms of Business, which are available on line at or on request and are deemed to be included herein:

1. A Rally is defined as multiple vehicles booking and travelling together at a discounted
Rally rate.
2. A minimum of 20 vehicles must travel together for consideration as a Rally.
3. A discounted rate is available for Rallies for travel on specified sailings, details of
which are available upon request.
4. Should the number of bookings fall below the minimum of 20, the discounted
Rally rate will no longer apply and all bookings will be priced at the standard rates
applicable on the day such reduction takes place.
5. Any reduction / increase in the number of vehicles originally quoted for may result in
the whole Rally being re quoted.
6. P&O Ferries will forward a Rally Request Form to the Rally Organiser. The
following information must be provided by the Rally Organiser in order for a
discounted Rally rate to be offered.

a.Route, Date and Time;
b.Number of vehicles and passengers in each vehicle;
c.Vehicle types;
d.Details of any Trailers / Caravans.
e.Cabin types

7. All fares and space availability can only be guaranteed once the booking is confirmed
by the Rally Organiser.
8. A booking confirmation will be sent by P&O Ferries to the Rally Organiser.
9. The discounted Rally rate only applies to Vehicles and Passengers, unless other
wise specified. Any additional services, including on board accommodation, will be
charged at the standard rate current at the time of booking.
10. No refunds will be made as a result of any price variation after the booking has been
11. Payment MUST be made at least 30 days prior to travel.
12. Final passenger and vehicle details must be provided at least 30 days prior to travel.
13. A booking fee of £4.00 per Rally will be applied to bookings paid by credit card or
14. An amendment fee of £10.00 per Rally will be applied for changes to route, date or
time once bookings have been paid.
15. Cancellations are subject to cancellation fees as laid out in P&O Ferries full Terms of
Business referred to above.
16. All offers are subject to restricted space, sailings and dates. Failure to travel as booked
may result in an additional charge.
17. P&O Ferries will only deal with the Rally Organiser and not individual travellers.
18. This quote is valid for 15 working days from date issued.
 #2830248  by Sedge
 Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:53 pm
Eutostar wrote:Thank you for your enquiry concerning your group booking. We understand that you are the group leader for this booking.

Eurotunnel offers the fastest, most reliable and easiest way to take your vehicle across the Channel and we are pleased to offer you a price of £124.00 per vehicle based upon 20 cars travelling together.

Folkestone-Calais 14/06/11 at 08.50
Calais-Folkestone 24/06/11 at 20.50

This offer is only valid for the dates and times shown above and is open until 16/02/2011. All bookings are subject to availability.

The price corresponds to a significant discount against our public fares and also provides you with the additional benefits of the price being held for the offer period, amendable tickets and a dedicated team of specialists to help with your booking details and administration.

Please read the terms and Conditions attached; by making your booking you will be confirming the acceptance of them. A non refundable deposit of 10% is required when making the booking to reserve the space for your party, with the full balance due 12 weeks before travel or at the time of booking if booked less than 12 weeks before travel.

Code: Select allEurostar Terms
2. Group Leader’s Obligations
2.1 The Group Leader shall make the Group Booking on behalf of the Group giving such information to Eurotunnel as
Eurotunnel shall require including, but not limited to, the names of the Drivers of the Qualifying Vehicles.
2.2 The Group Leader shall be responsible for communicating the Booking Reference to each Driver together with all
other information relating to the Group Booking as Eurotunnel may communicate to the Group Leader from time to
2.3 The Group Leader shall communicate Eurotunnel’s Conditions of Carriage and Ticket Terms to all Drivers together
with a copy of these Group Booking Terms and Conditions.
2.4 The Group Leader shall inform all Drivers of Eurotunnel’s check-in times in accordance with clause 5.1 below.
Failure by Drivers to comply with these times may result in the Booking Reference becoming invalid and the Group
Leader and / or such Drivers as who still wish to travel shall be required to purchase a non-refundable ticket at the
full public fare applicable to the day of travel before travel will be permitted.
2.5 The Group Leader shall be responsible for the conduct of the Group during its presence at Eurotunnel’s terminals
and during travel on board the Shuttle.
3. The Group Booking Rate and Payment
3.1 The Group Booking Rate will be offered to the Group Leader by Eurotunnel in writing such rate to depend upon the
number of Qualifying Vehicles forming the Group.
3.2 Unless Credit Terms apply, the Group Leader shall pay the Group Booking Rate prior to Eurotunnel issuing the
Booking References:
3.2.1 A non-refundable deposit of the Group Booking Rate (10% for groups of 15 – 25 vehicles or 50% for groups
of more than 26 vehicles) shall become payable immediately; and
3.2.2 Eurotunnel shall then issue an invoice in respect of the balance of the Group Booking Rate in the name of
the Group Leader.
3.3 Unless otherwise agreed by Eurotunnel in writing, the Group Leader shall pay the amount of the invoice issued
under clause 3.2.2 above at least 12 weeks prior to the date of outbound travel.
3.4 No Booking References shall be issued unless and until full payment in cleared funds is received by Eurotunnel.
3.5 The Group shall not be permitted to travel unless payment is received in full in cleared funds prior to departure.
COMM/0070/2 2
4. Amending Group Bookings
4.1 Group Bookings may be amended prior to travel subject to availability. In some cases a supplement may be
4.2 No refund shall be given in respect of Group Bookings.
5. Check-in Time
5.1 Unless otherwise communicated to the Group Leader by Eurotunnel in writing, Drivers must check-in at
Eurotunnel’s terminals at least thirty minutes (but not more than two hours) before the booked departure time.
5.2 The Booking Reference will become invalid if Drivers fail to comply with the Check-in time in accordance with
clause 5.1 above.
5.3 In the event that the Booking Reference becomes invalid pursuant to clause 5.2 above, it may be possible to
transfer the booking to the next available departure subject the following:
5.3.1 If Drivers check-in no more than 2 hours after the booked departure time, the booking will be transferred
without additional payment;
5.3.2 If Drivers check-in more than 2 hours but no more than 24 hours after the booked departure time, the
booking will be exchanged for another crossing in accordance with Eurotunnel’s Ticket Terms;
5.3.3 If Drivers check-in more than 24 hours after the booked departure time, the booking will not be exchanged.
6. Shuttle Service
6.1 Eurotunnel’s Conditions of Carriage (available from and upon request) shall apply to all travel on
the Shuttle and all Passengers should note that certain exclusions of liability apply.
6.2 From time to time, Eurotunnel may impose restrictions on the use of the Shuttle, in particular, but not limited to,
restrictions during peak travel times. The Group Leader shall notify all Passengers that such restrictions may be
imposed by Eurotunnel. These restrictions may include, but are not limited to, the towage of caravans and trailers
and the carriage of campervans.
6.3 Qualifying Vehicles fitted with Liquefied Petroleum Gas (“LPG”) containers to power domestic services such as
cooking, refrigeration, heating and water heaters are accepted for travel on the Shuttle on condition that these
devices are switched off, weigh no more than 47kg and are not more than 80% full. Where any Qualifying Vehicle
is so fitted, the Driver must declare it at Check-In.
6.4 Qualifying Vehicles powered by LPG or which are dual-powered vehicles (vehicles fitted with an LPG tank as an
alternative fuel) cannot be accepted for transport on the Shuttle.
7. Miscellaneous
7.1 In the event of any conflict between these Group Booking Terms and Conditions and the Ticket Terms, these Group
Booking Terms and Conditions shall prevail.
7.2 The carriage of firearms and ammunition must be declared at Check-In and as otherwise directed by signs at the
Eurotunnel terminals.
7.3 Passengers should read Rules for the Carriage of Firearms and Ammunition on Eurotunnel Passenger Shuttles.
7.4 Passengers should read the Rules for the Carriage of Reserve Fuel Containers.
7.5 Passengers should read the Conditions of Carriage which contain certain exclusions of liability and should be read
before travelling.
7.6 Passengers should read the Ticket Terms before traveling.
8. Governing Law and Jurisdiction
8.1 These Group Booking Terms and Conditions and any contract arising out of a booking shall be governed in all
respects by English law if a claimant brings his or her action in England and by French law if a claimant brings his
or her action in France.
8.2 The parties irrevocably submit to the exclusive jurisdictions of the English and French courts for the purposes
8.3 These Group Booking Terms and Conditions are issued in England and France. Where a claim is brought in
England the English language version shall be treated as the authentic version and where a claim is brought in
France the French language version shall be treated as the authentic version.
 #2834590  by algreene
 Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:48 pm
Your travel times are baaaaaad for people up north. Depart = drive all night. Return = drive all night..
 #2834593  by Newannaive
 Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:53 pm
Al we can have a pre-tour stop over at claires house the night before if we want...25 mins from the tunnel. BBq has been offered, and it will give you a chance to squeeze into that tent before you have to do it for real.. :wink:
 #2834611  by karl
 Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:37 am
mmm, this is relevant to my interests...
 #2834618  by Mark83
 Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:43 am
algreene wrote:Your travel times are baaaaaad for people up north. Depart = drive all night. Return = drive all night..

Rob Orbison coped...
 #2834655  by lecurie
 Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:02 am
Cat wrote:
Newannaive wrote:.
Car mods ... mandatory to have a Gruppe M while travelling through tunnels for maximum noisage. :smile:


i watched this again the other day Cat!
 #2834664  by J
 Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:30 am
Just pop my name here.
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