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[mc36155]

does this arb look right to you, it is a jdm rear, just looks a bit aysymetrical to me. check out the ends seem to be bent differently, wouldn't want to put this on my car in case it fk's my handling up, assuming it will even go on. what do you think.

sorry dont know how to get the pictures to work so just links.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/48282078@N07/4424936789/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48282078@N07/4425701830/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48282078@N07/4424936411/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48282078@N07/4424936209/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48282078@N07/4424936055/

[Newannaive]

Dude, that looks like it has been in a bad accident and freshly re-powdercoated just to sell on.

throw it in the bin...it's fcuked

[mc36155]

hmm, came wrapped with honda genuine parts sticker on, maybe just messed it up when they made it and thought they'ed chuck it in with the rest anyway, seems plausible, definitely when considering the made in spain lable. But either way i agree its fu#ked. will try to get replacement, too expensive to chuck.

Cheers :thumbup:

EDIT; lol, where did that as gay as me come from?

[Newannaive]

ARB should be perfectly symmetrical buddy, thats definitely been bent by something.

The end nearest the camera looks ok, the other end is fcuked.

[mc36155]

yeah would have to agree, my brother has just bought a front and rear nuespeed arb for his S3 and they are perfectly symetrical (and well made might i add) on this the bends are to differing degrees and in directions as well as having different distances between the bends.

[Newannaive]

Where did you buy it from..??..ebay..?

[mc36155]

No, got it from one of the vendors from this forum, dont really like to say exactly, will give them a chance to sort it before that, only fair. They have been quite good so will see what they say.

[Newannaive]

No, got it from one of the vendors from this forum, dont really like to say exactly, will give them a chance to sort it before that, only fair. They have been quite good so will see what they say.

Yep, fair do's...I'm sure it's a mistake and they'll replace straight away, they are all decent traders on here really.. :thumbup:

[Eight Speed]

Thanks for the comments guys

Have any of you ever actually looked at your roll bar?

This is correct, they are asymetrical.

Cheers!

Stevie

[Eight Speed]

Front and Rear together:



Come on guys, maybe check things out before typing comments that are potentially harmful eh?

Stevie
Unit 8

[Newannaive]

Thanks for the comments guys

Have any of you ever actually looked at your roll bar?

Yeah, I fitted mine..shows how much notice I was taking of it..

I honestly never knew the rears were asymmetrical, I thought the fronts were, but I've fitted several rear bars to different CTRs and swapped out droplinks countless times and never noticed that....whys that then steve..?.to miss the exhaust or something..?
Or is it asymmetrical, like a golf..?

Come on guys, maybe check things out before typing comments that are potentially harmful eh?

There is no harmful comments in here brother. :salut:

[mjhamilton]

I guess as the ARB can also sometimes be referred to as a 'torsion' bar this would make some sense

Torsion: Torsion refers to the twisting of a structural member loaded by torque, or twisting couples.

The humps in the middle are the torsion/twist load points...

I bet (and am interested if someone would check) when put on the car and loaded up the bar is symetrical.. so this loads it with torsion stress so when one side of the suspenstion moves this is amplified to the other side to improve reactive response...

God.. I really am talking bollox now but it makes sense in my old engineering head..

[ep-greeny]

I guess as the ARB can also sometimes be referred to as a 'torsion' bar this would make some sense

Torsion: Torsion refers to the twisting of a structural member loaded by torque, or twisting couples.

The humps in the middle are the torsion/twist load points...

I bet (and am interested if someone would check) when put on the car and loaded up the bar is symetrical.. so this loads it with torsion stress so when one side of the suspenstion moves this is amplified to the other side to improve reactive response...

God.. I really am talking bollox now but it makes sense in my old engineering head..

yeeeaahhhh thats the 1 lol

i cant "engineer" a roll bar but basically you have hit the nail on the head about how they work, they tie both sides of the suspension together and reduce body roll

heres a cut and paste for you to engineer lol

A stabilizer bar tries to keep the car's body flat by moving force from one side of the body to another. To picture how a stabilizer bar works, imagine a metal rod that is an inch or two (2 to 5 cm) in diameter. If your front tires are 5 feet (1.6 meters) apart, make the rod about 4 feet long. Attach the rod to the frame of the car in front of the front tires, but attach it with bushings in such a way that it can rotate. Now attach arms from the rod to the front suspension member on both sides.

When you go into a turn now, the front suspension member of the outside of the turn gets pushed upward. The arm of the sway bar gets pushed upward, and this applies torsion to the rod. The torsion them moves the arm at the other end of the rod, and this causes the suspension on the other side of the car to compress as well. The car's body tends to stay flat in the turn.

If you don't have a stabilizer bar, you tend to have a lot of trouble with body roll in a turn. If you have too much stabilizer bar, you tend to lose independence between the suspension members on both sides of the car. When one wheel hits a bump, the stabilizer bar transmits the bump to the other side of the car as well, which is not what you want. The ideal is to find a setting that reduces body roll but does not hurt the independence of the tires.

[mjhamilton]

mind is old and fuzzy now.. but it nice to know that i can still remember my first trade.. electromechanical enigeering

.. I still ask my self how I ended up asw a senior global IT manager in in a large global organisation :scratch:

Where and when did it all go wrong..??.

[mc36155]

Sorry stevie

just wasnt expecting it to look like that and just wanted to try and get opinions before i came to you, but i can see this was a bit stupid by doing so on a public forum, will just phone you next time. my bad.

dont worry i will be using you again, probably be ordering that break kit soon.

[mc36155]

I guess as the ARB can also sometimes be referred to as a 'torsion' bar this would make some sense

Torsion: Torsion refers to the twisting of a structural member loaded by torque, or twisting couples.

The humps in the middle are the torsion/twist load points...

I bet (and am interested if someone would check) when put on the car and loaded up the bar is symetrical.. so this loads it with torsion stress so when one side of the suspenstion moves this is amplified to the other side to improve reactive response...

God.. I really am talking bollox now but it makes sense in my old engineering head..

It probably would be installed with some load just to make sure it is firmly in place, but not to the extent that it becomes symetrical. with stevies reccomendations i had a look under the rear of mine and from what i could see it is still asymetrical (the EDM one, havent taken it off yet). i can see what you are getting at but at 22mm thick that would be some extreme loading. but then i may be wrong, again. :salut:

[Newannaive]

You want any more advice, just give me a shout..

[mc36155]

You want any more advice, just give me a shout..

LOL, no worries. least now i can just get on and fit it, yay!

[Newannaive]

:thumbup:

[Barney]

Will me local stealer know what a JDM rear ARB is if i phone or will I need a part number to help the 'tards ?