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[OZ 82]

Hi all, just wondered how many people have suffered hydrolock using the AEM cai or Injen kits?

[andy-l-type-r]

i always worry about hydrolock using my AEM CAI but hydroshield is a good precaution.

To be fair you would need to drive through a fairly deep puddle to cause any major issues imo and i normally avoid puddles if possible.

am sure people have suffered from this before, but i know one this bye bye engine if you do!! lol

[OZ 82]

I did some extra work after fitting mine to ensure nothing can get into that area when driving. I realise that you would have to drive through deep water to damage anything. But i wondered if and how anybody had hydrolocked their engine?

[Tomw88]

Think a few people on here done it previously!

I did worry about it when I first fitted mine, but after having it on a few months and going on long journeys in horrendus rain it laid my mind to rest!
I think as long as you use your common sense and avoid stupidly deep puddles then your fine

[G.]

Yep. I did. Blew my motor. I was carefull but after 20 months my luck ran out. It was a deep puddle across the road though where there should not have been. I know the road well but must have been a blocked drain. My fault in that I thought I'd gotten away with it and never got here thorougy checked. So I kept driving. There must have been just enough partial hydrolock to cause stress to one of the rods. A short time after it let go on the M4. The head survived. But I needed a new short block. Re built by TDI north.

[OZ 82]

Yep. I did. Blew my motor. I was carefull but after 20 months my luck ran out. It was a deep puddle across the road though where there should not have been. I know the road well but must have been a blocked drain. My fault in that I thought I'd gotten away with it and never got here thorougy checked. So I kept driving. There must have been just enough partial hydrolock to cause stress to one of the rods. A short time after it let go on the M4. The head survived. But I needed a new short block. Re built by TDI north.

So did you submerge the filter under water G? I have made lots of trips in mine, in terrible weather and its been fine. But i did some extra mods to stop any water getting in whilst driving. Whenever i have driven anywere in bad weather, i check the filter and its alwys dry. So i think the only way i could feck mine would be deep water.

[mjhamilton]

Yep. I did. Blew my motor. I was carefull but after 20 months my luck ran out. It was a deep puddle across the road though where there should not have been. I know the road well but must have been a blocked drain. My fault in that I thought I'd gotten away with it and never got here thorougy checked. So I kept driving. There must have been just enough partial hydrolock to cause stress to one of the rods. A short time after it let go on the M4. The head survived. But I needed a new short block. Re built by TDI north.

So did you submerge the filter under water G? I have made lots of trips in mine, in terrible weather and its been fine. But i did some extra mods to stop any water getting in whilst driving. Whenever i have driven anywere in bad weather, i check the filter and its alwys dry. So i think the only way i could feck mine would be deep water.

a damp or wet filter wont lwad to hydrolock... this is only caused when you dip the whole end into water and suck it up like a drinking straw

Just stay out of the deep end and you will be fine... :thumbup:

[Alex Knight]

You've gotta ask though, is it really worth the few bhp and extra noise?

[OZ 82]

Yep. I did. Blew my motor. I was carefull but after 20 months my luck ran out. It was a deep puddle across the road though where there should not have been. I know the road well but must have been a blocked drain. My fault in that I thought I'd gotten away with it and never got here thorougy checked. So I kept driving. There must have been just enough partial hydrolock to cause stress to one of the rods. A short time after it let go on the M4. The head survived. But I needed a new short block. Re built by TDI north.

So did you submerge the filter under water G? I have made lots of trips in mine, in terrible weather and its been fine. But i did some extra mods to stop any water getting in whilst driving. Whenever i have driven anywere in bad weather, i check the filter and its alwys dry. So i think the only way i could feck mine would be deep water.

a damp or wet filter wont lwad to hydrolock... this is only caused when you dip the whole end into water and suck it up like a drinking straw

Just stay out of the deep end and you will be fine... :thumbup:

thats what i thought you would need to do. As you say, a damp filter wouldnt be enough to suck up water. Iam sure you are a spy MJH, or you work for Honda as you seem to know everything on these CTR,s haha

[mjhamilton]

Yep. I did. Blew my motor. I was carefull but after 20 months my luck ran out. It was a deep puddle across the road though where there should not have been. I know the road well but must have been a blocked drain. My fault in that I thought I'd gotten away with it and never got here thorougy checked. So I kept driving. There must have been just enough partial hydrolock to cause stress to one of the rods. A short time after it let go on the M4. The head survived. But I needed a new short block. Re built by TDI north.

So did you submerge the filter under water G? I have made lots of trips in mine, in terrible weather and its been fine. But i did some extra mods to stop any water getting in whilst driving. Whenever i have driven anywere in bad weather, i check the filter and its alwys dry. So i think the only way i could feck mine would be deep water.

a damp or wet filter wont lwad to hydrolock... this is only caused when you dip the whole end into water and suck it up like a drinking straw

Just stay out of the deep end and you will be fine... :thumbup:

thats what i thought you would need to do. As you say, a damp filter wouldnt be enough to suck up water. Iam sure you are a spy MJH, or you work for Honda as you seem to know everything on these CTR,s haha

no man.. just old and have a well developed common sense gland... :thumbup:

Remember though that a wet fillter will not perform as well as it should as the water droplets will restrict airflow.. but it wont damage the engine

CTR is not that unique.. it is still a car with four wheels and an engine.. had about 20 or so cars in my driving career and they pretty much all do the same thing.. breath at one end, burn in the middle and push out dirty stuff at the back...

[OZ 82]

Yep. I did. Blew my motor. I was carefull but after 20 months my luck ran out. It was a deep puddle across the road though where there should not have been. I know the road well but must have been a blocked drain. My fault in that I thought I'd gotten away with it and never got here thorougy checked. So I kept driving. There must have been just enough partial hydrolock to cause stress to one of the rods. A short time after it let go on the M4. The head survived. But I needed a new short block. Re built by TDI north.

So did you submerge the filter under water G? I have made lots of trips in mine, in terrible weather and its been fine. But i did some extra mods to stop any water getting in whilst driving. Whenever i have driven anywere in bad weather, i check the filter and its alwys dry. So i think the only way i could feck mine would be deep water.

a damp or wet filter wont lwad to hydrolock... this is only caused when you dip the whole end into water and suck it up like a drinking straw

Just stay out of the deep end and you will be fine... :thumbup:

thats what i thought you would need to do. As you say, a damp filter wouldnt be enough to suck up water. Iam sure you are a spy MJH, or you work for Honda as you seem to know everything on these CTR,s haha

no man.. just old and have a well developed common sense gland... :thumbup:

Remember though that a wet fillter will not perform as well as it should as the water droplets will restrict airflow.. but it wont damage the engine

CTR is not that unique.. it is still a car with four wheels and an engine.. had about 20 or so cars in my driving career and they pretty much all do the same thing.. breath at one end, burn in the middle and push out dirty stuff at the back...

nicely put mate. I did have a little incident were the filter got wet, and it didnt perform as it should. But that was when i first had the kit on. After that i took it off and put the standard box back on for a while. But a few months ago i put the AEM back on and did a few mods.


I also bought a hydrshield for it, and since never had a problem. After every trip in heavy rain, i ccheck the filter and its alwys dry. So what i have done seems to have worked. No water at all seems to get into the area were the filter sits now.

[mjhamilton]

nicely put mate. I did have a little incident were the filter got wet, and it didnt perform as it should. But that was when i first had the kit on. After that i took it off and put the standard box back on for a while. But a few months ago i put the AEM back on and did a few mods.


I also bought a hydrshield for it, and since never had a problem. After every trip in heavy rain, i ccheck the filter and its alwys dry. So what i have done seems to have worked. No water at all seems to get into the area were the filter sits now.

from what I can see 'Hydroshield' will just stop the filter from getting cruddy and wet whilst in the arch space.. it wont stop hydrolock as if you submerge the whole unit even with the sock on you are still going to pull nothing but water in to the engine... I hate to see people thinking that the sock will stop this from happening.. it wont!!!

[G.]

The car was low, and yep the water was deep, as I say I had to accept responsibility and the 3 grand bill. I should have stayed at home and not gone into work, once it had happened, I should have known better at my age, but I needed to get into work as it was press week, and it was 6.30 on a cold winters morning.

Still I changed to a better system and with better peace of mind. ARC FTW. In our wet climate I now think there are better options.

So with my new build its only going be the best well though out parts for reliability that I'll get TDI North to use.

[OZ 82]

nicely put mate. I did have a little incident were the filter got wet, and it didnt perform as it should. But that was when i first had the kit on. After that i took it off and put the standard box back on for a while. But a few months ago i put the AEM back on and did a few mods.


I also bought a hydrshield for it, and since never had a problem. After every trip in heavy rain, i ccheck the filter and its alwys dry. So what i have done seems to have worked. No water at all seems to get into the area were the filter sits now.

from what I can see 'Hydroshield' will just stop the filter from getting cruddy and wet whilst in the arch space.. it wont stop hydrolock as if you submerge the whole unit even with the sock on you are still going to pull nothing but water in to the engine... I hate to see people thinking that the sock will stop this from happening.. it wont!!!

I know the hydroshield wont prevent hydrolock if you were to submerge the entire filter under water. But it will prevent any splashes or spray from being drawn through it, or from dwelling on it. Really, aslong as you dont submerge it, you wont damage the engine even if it were to get damp. Would you agree?




@ G, so thats why you fecked your engine, because of deep water and not just driving in the wet?

[G.]

Yes fella, however we had those periods of flooding, I live Oxfordshire way, and on the way home one night it took me 4 hours instead of 1 just because had to fine my way around all the slightly flooded areas, I just got fed up with it. So it was a choice between the GruppM or ARC. I chose the best one and bought an ARC

[OZ 82]

Yes fella, however we had those periods of flooding, I live Oxfordshire way, and on the way home one night it took me 4 hours instead of 1 just because had to fine my way around all the slightly flooded areas, I just got fed up with it. So it was a choice between the GruppM or ARC. I chose the best one and bought an ARC

I know what yor sayin dude, you do have to be careful in the rain etc. I only llive less than 10!iles away from TDi North and the roads are really good tbh. Never ever floods, maybe apart from 1 or 2 occcasions i can remember. I think i will go for the ARC in the future if its as good as you say. Did you rate the AEM at all? Also did you have the hydrosock on it?

[G.]

No. No hydrock. It worked ok. The ARC is better. I was running 230bhp with a BC spec 4 and AEM. Then swapped to a Skunk2 70mm and the ARC and came away with 241.3. The graph was a lot smoother and revved a lot more freely. Both tunes by TDI north, who was impressed with how they worked.

[OZ 82]

No. No hydrock. It worked ok. The ARC is better. I was running 230bhp with a BC spec 4 and AEM. Then swapped to a Skunk2 70mm and the ARC and came away with 241.3. The graph was a lot smoother and revved a lot more freely. Both tunes by TDI north, who was impressed with how they worked.

so would you say the ARC is a much better kit, or did the change in exhaust make the most difference? Oh by the way, i have followed your car a fair bit, and its fukcing awesome mate. :thumbup:

[BlakMagik]

No. No hydrock. It worked ok. The ARC is better. I was running 230bhp with a BC spec 4 and AEM. Then swapped to a Skunk2 70mm and the ARC and came away with 241.3. The graph was a lot smoother and revved a lot more freely. Both tunes by TDI north, who was impressed with how they worked.

so would you say the ARC is a much better kit, or did the change in exhaust make the most difference? Oh by the way, i have followed your car a fair bit, and its fukcing awesome mate. :thumbup:

hopefully me replacing my itg and hks with the arc and skunk with give equally good power gains

[G.]

No. No hydrock. It worked ok. The ARC is better. I was running 230bhp with a BC spec 4 and AEM. Then swapped to a Skunk2 70mm and the ARC and came away with 241.3. The graph was a lot smoother and revved a lot more freely. Both tunes by TDI north, who was impressed with how they worked.

so would you say the ARC is a much better kit, or did the change in exhaust make the most difference? Oh by the way, i have followed your car a fair bit, and its fukcing awesome mate. :thumbup:

hopefully me replacing my itg and hks with the arc and skunk with give equally good power gains

You also have the RBC and a better header so would think you'd do better.

I am sure the ARC is better yes. Plus the exhaust also. the Spec IV was restrictive.